tom mars, one of the boston athletic association folks here there at the finish line when both of the blasts occurred. thankfully, he's all right and his family members are all right as well. back to you. >> steve: all right. thank you. >> megyn: makes you sad to hear him say that. >> steve: it does. >> megyn: what a tradition here in america, the boston marathon, to hear him say it will never be the same. and yet, you know that's the reality. as resilient and tough as we are, it's the same as you go downtown manhattan. >> brian: you've been to the super bowl, they have all these terror things and the barriers. they secure it. i just don't see how anybody can secure a city that runs a marathon, whether it's london -- >> steve: 26 miles. >> brian: or boston. how do you do that? it's a road race. >> megyn: even here in manhattan, there is a million people in times square. you got to go through the magnetometers in certain areas, and the police and they check bags. but that's a controlled area. it is a few square blocks here in manhattan that they can control the ingress and egress to an